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SO!.....weather on Sunday looks mixed so am suggesting start at 09.05 at the latest..60 to 70 miles avg 17.5 or so ..that's plenty...should be back by 1.00 with out a stop or 1.30 with....shorter routes home can be shown if needed.....
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OK....I didn't realise the middle group wasn't happening!...Of course there should be a middle group and Geoff it sounds like you should take it ...but there are enough riders that seem to want a longer and possibly slightly more challenging ride tha…