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  • Tom, I use my sisters nail varnish remover... I guess you could use that for glue removal to.
    It's probably cheaper to get it from somewhere like halfords or a car shop (painters use it to clean a surface).
    I'd soften it with acetone the scrape off with a plastic putty knife (careful not to take off decals with the acetone).
  • Theo,

    Are you trying to tell us something? are you sure you haven't been painting your nails! :-)
  • Yes, you can get big bottles of nail varnish remover in Superdrug cheaply. Im fairly sure nail varnish remover is acetone.

    If the remaining glue is even and not lumpy or too thick or contaminated with bits of base tape you can leave it and just put more on top.
  • I agree, just clean off the gnarly bits with acetone and scotchbrite pad, otherwise the more glue the better as far as I am concerned.

    For a really dirty rim (such you'd get if you rolled your tub and rode for some distance in dirt on the rim) take a clincher tyre (see they do have uses) pull it over the rim and then pour some acetone in. Leave to stand, and rotate quarter of a turn every couple of hours or so for a day or two. That should dissolve most, then scotchbrite the rest.
  • Nail varnish is definitely acetone, trust me!
  • Thrilling. Thanks Jane.
  • Nail varnish remover isn't pure acetone, I'm not sure what else is in it.

    Clear nail varnish is good for minor carbon fibre repairs.
  • Isn't there a tub strike on for the next 48 hours? What will you all do?
  • I may have misread the news...
  • we should have a tub information / appreciation night at some point. keynotes on the latest research, demonstrations, product testing, get-your-nails-done-with-cca-varnish stand

    maybe a stand at the ashwell festival of cycling, for all those members of public who would be thrilled to learn of the wonders of tubs
  • FDFD
    edited February 2014
    Does the strike include Victoria tubs?!
  • Latest Cycling Monthly has a 2 page spread on 'fitting tubular road tyres'... Essential reading!
  • Was the author Daniel D?
  • Can you please stop all this Tubby talk, only it's giving me a complex :-(

    Shelton seven bellies
  • An up to date list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AuJYBb4ZA401dEZmVm43Wkcwd3IzeFZqWXZaUWRDNUE&gid=1
    But this doesn't take into account the aerodynamics of the wheel/tyre which can be greater than the difference between tyres.

    I have had better results with this than acetone - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/181309253550?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95
  • Hi all. Rimming clinching and nail varnish makes scary reading. But Ashwell is an old fashioned village eh!?
    bonjour from france
  • Can't quite believe I'm posting this, but thought it might be cause for a small celebration at the Tub Club:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/vittoria-corsa-evo-cx-tubular-tyre/

    Discounted to £34.50 (RRP £69)
  • Good find Jane! Note these are the super skinner 21mm section tyres.
  • FDFD
    edited February 2014
    Is this the Vittoria tub due to go on strike again tomorrow?!
  • Ooh how does the rolling resistance of a 21c compare to more conventional 23c tubs?
  • 21 probably worse.
  • The Crr will be slightly worse, but there is also the aero and the handling to take into consideration. If you look at the links to data that's on the thread you're talking about a maximum of maybe 2w worth of Crr per wheel between 21&23mm of the same tyre. It also makes a difference if it's for front or rear use.
  • i seem to remember Continental sell their Attack/Force clinchers as a combo of 21 front and 23 rear. i think any potential build up of glue on the rim needs to be taken into account....
  • I thought they were 24/22? I think you'll find that it'll save you 1W over 402km at 25.6kph with no pot holes. Important stuff, that.
  • James, you better not be using the C word on a tub related thread...
  • Continental has no place on a tub thread, unless it's their track ones.
    The modern fashion is now to run wider tubs and wider rims for less aerodynamic and rolling resistance.
  • Yeah but with the wider rims and wider tyres means more weight, so worse as far as the rotational weight goes.
  • Are tubs quicker when they've been cured and if so, what is the optimum curing time?!
  • It used to be common practice but now it is not really done now.
  • Found this on-line....fascinating stuff!!

    Aging Tubular Tires

    You may remember a Discovery Channel program entitled "The Science of Lance Armstrong", detailing his preparation for the Tour De France. One segment focused on Armstrong's lead mechanic--Julien Devries, a Belgian well known in pro cycling circles. Devries had a practice of aging all of Lance's tubular tires in a root cellar. Many dismissed this practice as a waste of time; nevertheless, Armstrong, known for turning over ever stone in search of that final edge, made sure all his race tires came from "the cellar'!

    Though not really effective for vulcanized tubular tires (Vulcanized tires use high heat to melt the tire tread onto the casing). If the treads are vulcanized, the rubber compound is most likely high in sulfur content, which does not really cure. Consequently, there is no improvement from storage, and these tires are best used as soon as possible.

    However, more expensive tubulars are constructed in a different manner--the treads are not vulcanized to the casing; instead, the treads are hand glued to the tire casing. The high grade rubber compounds found in these tubulars do improve with age, and as the rubber dries out a bit (cures), it doesn't reduce the suppleness meaningfully, but does dramatically improve the cut and puncture resistance of the tire, which in turn, increases tire life.

    The trick to aging is to remove the tire from manufacturer's packing box, inflate to approximately half the rated capacity and let hang in a dark, climate controlled environment (think wine cellar) for at least 60 days.
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