Dan/Matt - I've actually picked up a hamstring injury so would benefit from a few days rest. It doesn't really hurt me on the bike but it's stopping me from running so I'd be more than happy sitting this one out to give it some recovery time. If there's last minute issues with anyone then I can step in.
5 min power/weight the 4 over the KOM will be.
Chris's L and P
Dave
MattP
So to keep as fresh as possible the following could work. Split into 6 sections.
Section 1: up to glass road
Stef takes on along with Chris L and MattP
Stef emptying the tank up to the glass road start
Section 2: first climb up glass road (50m)
Let Dan set the pace. The rest hang on.
Section 3: glass up to KOM
ChrisL and MattP take over for a turn each whilst Dan recovers (a bit) and then joins in pushing hard up to KOM start and empties tank.
Section 4: KOM
Dave and ChrisP take over and go as hard as possible up the KOM! Rest on the flatter bits if possible with ChrisL and me on front until steep bits where Dave and ChrisP take over the pace.
Lots of observations needed to keep together. Crest over together.
Section 5: Decent
ChrisL and me steady watts if on front until next rolls through
All higher watts on the short uphill bits to keep up speed
Section 6: Bumpy until end
ChrisL and me take over until ChrisP and Dave recover
Keep watts high and roll our way through taking turns
The small bumps will catch us out
Climb watts:
On the two big climbs, as hard as the named rider can reasonably hold for the duration
Climb in the middle of decent (or little up bumps generally):
375 max
Bumpy bit watts:
Suggest that front riders keeps to max 300 to 350. If tiring, just hang on and keep up watts on the small climbs.
was thinking of something similar Matt, you and Chris do the main pulling on the flat/lesser drags then let the rate determining pace up the climbs be me, Stef and Dan. Probably want to make the call whether to shed people at each section or stay together for extra draft effect (this will probably help) as the KOM only comes about half way. I think momentum will help on some of the rollers at race speed. limit the uphills to early on to say 4.5w/kg as lots of time to be made/lost with a good pacing strategy
I'll try and get over the KOM with you guys if I can, that will give some benefit to the downhill section but there's prob no point waiting if I get dropped.
Plan makes sense. I doubt I can get over the KOM with you at your pace so makes sense to empty tank early and hopefully give you all some respite in the early sections. Then see what happens on the KOM!
Does anyone know how to follow someone live on one of these WTRL races? For normal races, you can register for the race, but stay on the start line and then click on anyone in that race to follow it live. But I don’t know how to do it in WTRL where you can’t line up on the start line.
That was an interesting one! Plagued by tech Gremlins tonight, Paul and Tim dripping out regularly giving us panic attacks but luckily they kept coming back!
Bs stayed as a six til 3/4 way up to the KOM where Vince dropped back. 5 of us kept it really tight all the way down and over the rollers. Power was kept high and certainly felt good. We lost Paul and Graham due to WiFi drop outs just before the line, but luckily Paul reappeared to be our 4th man! Phew!
Waiting with baited breath to see the results but we did get passed by our German league leaders...
Last season I never got the manager view to work but never worked out why. You sign into pen E, but then I just sat there on my own not able to jump to any one. Perhaps this is better now.
However......
If you sign into the actual race you can watch as you as say. On ZRL you can actually have as many riders as you like in the team in the pen as long as only 6 riders leave the pen. Therefore to watch this is the best way. Unless we can work out the other way.
Stef pulled an amazing effort up to to glass road. Dan powered us to the base of the climb. Dave and ChrisP beasted the climb. ChrisL then carried us home. I just did a short turn every now and then.
We caught our minute team just before the line so must have been going pretty well. We shall see!
Results at present show Bs 10th on the night, 0.3secs off of 9th... Could have been so without Paul or Graham's WiFi drop out!
As 4th on the night, less than a second ahead of 5th!
Some strong team performances last night. CZ Wolves in Bs smashed it for 1st. Our German league leader caught us as their minute team and finished 4th. Really thought we would fair better after the training, I know I couldn't have given much more and a couple of us set or close to wattage bests. Maybe we knew too much!....
Well done all. Yes also slightly disappointed in 10th, we seemed to be really holding together well and putting in max effort, I certainly couldn't have gone any harder (4W FTP increase!). But 5th in the league is still good!
Just finished a 2 lap race, the climb took around 7.5 minutes, i was trying to stick to 4W/kg on the first lap, on the 2nd I was around 3.8. It didnt feel too bad 2nd time round. I took it steady from the start gate thinking we might catch some people on the climb but it never happened. I'd say it's worth pushing at the start as there is a fairly decent draft effect on the climb if you are in a big bunch. There are some opportunities to get a rest on the decent. The run to the line was a bit cagey and no one wanted to lead it out, depending on group size you could try an attack with a 1km to go, especially if you have a ghost.
I think the best chance of points is the first climb. The first climb is always the fastest as it rips the race apart with max draft on bottom slopes as numbers are high. Treating the the first time past the KOM as the finish line will get maximum valuable overall FTS points (top 10 likely to be on first lap) and the less valuable 1st KOM points.
What happens thereafter is up to the race and legs.
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Please take note of the delay time for our start.
5 min power/weight the 4 over the KOM will be.
Chris's L and P
Dave
MattP
So to keep as fresh as possible the following could work. Split into 6 sections.
Section 1: up to glass road
Stef takes on along with Chris L and MattP
Stef emptying the tank up to the glass road start
Section 2: first climb up glass road (50m)
Let Dan set the pace. The rest hang on.
Section 3: glass up to KOM
ChrisL and MattP take over for a turn each whilst Dan recovers (a bit) and then joins in pushing hard up to KOM start and empties tank.
Section 4: KOM
Dave and ChrisP take over and go as hard as possible up the KOM! Rest on the flatter bits if possible with ChrisL and me on front until steep bits where Dave and ChrisP take over the pace.
Lots of observations needed to keep together. Crest over together.
Section 5: Decent
ChrisL and me steady watts if on front until next rolls through
All higher watts on the short uphill bits to keep up speed
Section 6: Bumpy until end
ChrisL and me take over until ChrisP and Dave recover
Keep watts high and roll our way through taking turns
The small bumps will catch us out
Climb watts:
On the two big climbs, as hard as the named rider can reasonably hold for the duration
Climb in the middle of decent (or little up bumps generally):
375 max
Bumpy bit watts:
Suggest that front riders keeps to max 300 to 350. If tiring, just hang on and keep up watts on the small climbs.
Thoughts welcome!
This is going to be fun!
Dan, your power would certainly make us faster on the second half so let's see how the main climb fairs and we can take a view towards the top.
Then see what happens on the KOM!
Bs stayed as a six til 3/4 way up to the KOM where Vince dropped back. 5 of us kept it really tight all the way down and over the rollers. Power was kept high and certainly felt good. We lost Paul and Graham due to WiFi drop outs just before the line, but luckily Paul reappeared to be our 4th man! Phew!
Waiting with baited breath to see the results but we did get passed by our German league leaders...
Last season I never got the manager view to work but never worked out why. You sign into pen E, but then I just sat there on my own not able to jump to any one. Perhaps this is better now.
However......
If you sign into the actual race you can watch as you as say. On ZRL you can actually have as many riders as you like in the team in the pen as long as only 6 riders leave the pen. Therefore to watch this is the best way. Unless we can work out the other way.
Stef pulled an amazing effort up to to glass road. Dan powered us to the base of the climb. Dave and ChrisP beasted the climb. ChrisL then carried us home. I just did a short turn every now and then.
We caught our minute team just before the line so must have been going pretty well. We shall see!
As 4th on the night, less than a second ahead of 5th!
Some strong team performances last night. CZ Wolves in Bs smashed it for 1st. Our German league leader caught us as their minute team and finished 4th. Really thought we would fair better after the training, I know I couldn't have given much more and a couple of us set or close to wattage bests. Maybe we knew too much!....
A's - am I right in thinking we're 2nd overall in the league? Seems to be after 5 events...
Heads up: I'm in on the Crit City crit B race, Thurs 7.45pm.
See you there in that category or another.
Next week is bonkers! One for the climbers... 3 x up Volcano... Let's get some points back
https://zwifthacks.com/app/events/?route=whole lotta lava
Some handy tips here...
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I think the best chance of points is the first climb. The first climb is always the fastest as it rips the race apart with max draft on bottom slopes as numbers are high. Treating the the first time past the KOM as the finish line will get maximum valuable overall FTS points (top 10 likely to be on first lap) and the less valuable 1st KOM points.
What happens thereafter is up to the race and legs.
3 times up the volcano at 41.5km. Another nice gruelling one.
I'm doing the XRS Climbing Series at 14:00 if anyone fancies it.